Interview with FlashPoint’s Bradford Haas

 

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


When I came upon Flashpoint's retrospective look (link to: http://www.flashpointmag.com/coxintroA.htm) at the relatively obscure British artist and writer Morris Cox a few months ago, I was impressed not only at the uniqueness and breadth of Cox's work but also the care with which his work had been presented.  I interviewed Bradford Haas via email to gain some perspective both on Cox and the efforts to present his work.

 

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Could you provide a brief summary of Morris Cox's work, and of FlashPoint's presentation of his work?

 

Morris Cox was a London artist who lived from 1903-1998, and was actively making art for the majority of his life (works exist up to at least 1996). Where he is known, it is primarily for the books he produced at his own Gogmagog Press. His work, however, is tremendously diverse. He made over 300 paintings, poems totaling around 450 pages, at least 6 novels, more than 50 stand-alone prints, critical writings, experimental photography, perhaps 25 small sculptures, and self-produced about 70 books from the Gogmagog Press. As a poet/painter/printer, he is often compared to Blake for his originality and uniqueness. While it seems that any ‘poet/painter’ receives this accolade, Cox’s work is truly distinctive.

 

Despite the self-evident quality of much of the work, Cox has remained a relatively obscure figure. There are a number of factors that have contributed to this. First, Cox never was part of a formal ‘group’ that I am aware of, and worked for the most part on his own. His freedom to dedicate his life to art was supplied by his wife Wyn, who had a steady job that paid the bills while Cox painted, wrote and printed books. Secondly, his work often contains elements which viewers find ‘difficult’. It may be that the entirety of a particular work is hard to look at; or it may be that a generally pleasing image has one single element that makes it ‘disturbing’. In other words, not all of his work is immediately viewer friendly. Third, after trying very hard to be recognized as a writer and visual artist in the 1940s and 1950s, Cox gave up promoting himself. He turned to printing his own work, which ironically created a small but dedicated audience among the collectors and manufacturers of private press books.

 

In 1991, when Cox was 88 years of age, three of his friends and patrons put together a wonderful book that paid tribute to his work at the Gogmagog Press. Printed in an edition of 1650 copies, it allowed more people to glimpse what Cox had accomplished, and it is still a great introduction to Cox’s private press books. Around that same time, Cox was persuaded by some friends to donate his own copies of the Gogmagog books to the Victoria and Albert Museum. This has remained the single most comprehensive collection of his work in an institutional library.


In 2003, to celebrate the centennial of Cox’s birth, FlashPoint Magazine launched an on-line exhibition which featured for the first time a representative selection of his work. Virtually no one, aside from a very small group of people, had seen the scope of his paintings, his prints, his poetry and prose, or had had the opportunity to look at actual Gogmagog Press books. The internet seemed the right place for such an exhibition. There was, after all, no limit as to the space we could use; no worry about the cost of the many color illustrations, as would be the case in a print journal. And it could be added to and amended as new images and texts and information became available. It seemed like a perfect marriage.


As of right now (April 2004) the exhibition features nearly 100 visual artworks, about the same number of poems and prose pieces, and three ‘virtual facsimiles’ of Gogmagog Press books. We will continue to add new items and correct information in the future. It’s a deep well, and we haven’t seen the bottom yet.

 

Do you remember what specific work, or book, of Morris Cox first captured your attention? Were you first drawn to the writings, the paintings and prints, or to the design of the books themselves?

 

In a way, the poet/painter David Jones brought me to Cox. At one point I lived in Stratford-on-Avon, and I had come to know some wonderful booksellers, Nial and Margaret Devitt, who were (and still are) located in Leamington Spa. A visit to the Devitts meant good conversation, a cup of tea, and the opportunity to see interesting things. After a few visits, Nial had become of aware of my avid interest in the work of David Jones. He suggested that I visit the Catherine House Gallery in Marlborough, since it often had wood engravings by Jones in stock. During one of my visits there, I spied a book in a glass-doored cupboard which was black with the word ‘GOGMAGOG’ on the spine in bold gold lettering. For some reason, in the back of my mind, I thought this might be one of Ted Hughes’s limited edition books from the Rainbow Press. But when I removed it from the slipcase and opened it I could see it was a monograph devoted to the Gogmagog Private Press, which evidently represented the work of one man: Morris Cox. Coming from the detailed and somberly black wood engravings of David Jones, the color images in this book struck me as at once energetic, but possibly (to my eye then) somewhat crudely executed. Certainly original. I asked the gallery proprietor, Christopher Gange, if he had ever seen any of the actual Gogmagog books. He answered no, that from what he knew they were all done in quite small numbers, and that he had never encountered one. I took a mental note, and put the book back without much further thought.

When I traveled back to the U.S. for Christmas break, I found a pile of mail waiting for me, including a number of booksellers’ catalogues. One, from Bromer Booksellers, Inc., had on its cover an image that I was drawn to immediately: a woman’s face, with large sympathetic eyes, brown hair blowing, and in her hand a bunch of daisies. The color, texture and design struck me as extremely fresh and exciting. I turned to the page with the listing. It was a painting (in a catalogue of books) titled ‘Thora’ by none other than Morris Cox, the ‘creative genius behind the Gogmagog Press’, as they put it. That painting, along with the coincidence of having seen the deluxe copy of GOGMAGOG: MORRIS COX AND THE GOGMAGOG PRESS at the Catherine House Gallery, was enough for me to search out more information about Cox. It was also at that time that I discovered two facts: while there were several Gogmagog Press books listed for sale on the internet, they were all quite expensive. And beyond this, outside of the GOGMAGOG volume issued by the Private Libraries Association in 1991, there was little information about his work that was easily obtainable.

 

Do you find yourself more drawn to the literature or visual work? Or is such a binary even applicable to Cox?

 

It’s funny. When I had purchased a copy of GOGMAGOG, I showed it to a student of mine who was a trained artist. She had been quite excited at first, but when she returned the book she told me, ‘I think he is probably a better poet than he is a visual artist’. I had felt exactly the opposite. I find this interesting, as I came to Cox’s work as a teacher of literature - and particularly from the aesthetics of High Modernist literature - so the poems by Cox included in the GOGMAGOG book did not quite ring true to me at that time. For my student, she was coming to Cox as an artist, and she found the art lacking, as she had particular ideas about the practice and aesthetics of visual art, and Cox’s work did not agree with this. From what I have seen, this is fairly typical of reactions to Cox’s work. It leads me to believe that it does not matter whether he is writing or creating visual art, specialists in either field will initially find his work not fitting into pre-conceived notions and expectations. This can cause an immediate dislike or dismissal. As with other original work, however, with more familiarity it all begins to make sense when viewed in its own context. Familiarity happens when we cease to look at art to confirm what we already know and believe (‘safe’ art), and instead use art to explore what we don’t. Cox’s art is almost always an expedition, both for himself in the creative act, and for the viewer.


A more direct answer is that I think the best of Cox’s visual art is more instantly accessible and obviously good. Saying this, some of his poems, such as several from 45 UNTITLED POEMS (1969), are highly enjoyable from the very first reading, and many others become very appealing once the ear is tuned to hear them. But ultimately, as with the perennial shadow of William Blake, Cox is best understood when viewing both images AND texts. The blending of text and image in several of the Gogmagog Press books makes for sublime objects.

 

Do you believe you have great interest in Cox as a poet and/or visual artist, or does a large part of his appeal arise from his relative obscurity or neglect?   Does the act of "rescuing" a neglected figure have any special resonance for you, even as a gesture?  That is, is the actual act (regardless of result) of finding and bringing to light an ignored figure a large part of the appeal of undertaking such a huge project, or is it more the quality of Cox's accomplishment?

 

There is no doubt that a certain breed of scholar loves virgin territory. I’ve never been the kind of person who feels the desire to work within a fully established critical industry. I love James Joyce, for example, but I would find little joy picking through the left-overs to find an appropriate project on his work. Also, I’m not interested in the ‘ready-made’ approach to academic work: apply THIS theory to THAT text. I suppose this kind of criticism has its place. But it’s just not how I work. The world contains so much that is not seen along the rat tracks. Even tho we have defined our physical map, circumvented the globe, been to points north and south, the age of exploration continues (not just at NASA) at he local level. I take Charles Olson’s concept of the ‘istorin seriously - not that I discovered this notion in Olson, but that I saw my own instincts and practices mirrored in his _expression of the idea ‘to find out for oneself’. This is as Olson wants, to make us aware of our process rather than to claim himself (or Horodotus for that matter) as the originator of such a concept. For me this means to leave the ivory tower, step into the world, and start interacting with objects; see what they have to communicate. George Oppen’s opening to OF BEING NUMEROUS says it wonderfully:

 

There are things
We live among ‘and to see them
Is to know ourselves’.

 

But in order to ‘see’ the objects, we must approach them with what Louis Zukofsky termed ‘sincerity’. We can’t approach them with our pre-conceived ideas and theories - we would simply shape the objects according to our desires, and thus only take from them what we had brought (confirmation). By approaching the objects with ‘sincerity’, we are much more likely to understand the objects and obtain non-regurgitated knowledge from them (exploration).


Following the trails of unestablished work, however, creates many risks. Much time and effort can be spent before finding out that the subject matter is vacuous. And of course, after so much time and effort, it can be hard to admit the effort has been in vain, and to let the material sink back into obscurity. This reality has led to much unworthy material being forced upon the academic community, only to waste a huge amount of time we could be spending on truly worthy material. As is often said, there is a reason why much obscure work is obscure: it deserves to be. Not only this, but in order to bolster mediocre work, academics will, through the manipulation of theory, often ‘create’ a realm of meaning around a body of work that far exceeds the initial act the creation by the artist or writer (a real lack of ‘sincerity’ towards the object)!


It was with these risks in mind that I started investigating Cox. At the very early stages I wondered if it would be worth the effort and time. There was a sense of something much larger, hidden below the surface of references in GOGMAGOG, but I had no direct knowledge of what lay beneath. In ordinary circumstances, I would have gone to the library and the rare book stores, and found all the relevant information that would give me a thorough working knowledge of the subject. But I couldn’t do that in this case - and it was frustrating. It taught me patience and concentration; I had to look very hard at what I was given (like a few bone shards suggesting a much larger skeleton), and wait for material to emerge that would help me make sense of these scant pieces.


I felt more than repaid for my efforts. Cox’s work became an onion, with layer after layer to peel back, always with more underneath. I did not need to fabricate a theoretical scaffolding to hold Cox up; through seventy years of activity he had fashioned his own corpus which would self-animate if only given the chance to present itself. While the possibility for me to add my take on his work certainly existed, the immediate need, as I saw it, was to simply encounter as much of the material as I could with a sincere desire to understand it on its own terms. The result of this method was the FlashPoint exhibition, which sought mainly to allow the work to speak for itself, within a network of introductions and notes that describe and document rather than argue (tho, admittedly, arrangement of materials is in itself a subtle argument).


So, while the idea of resurrection is an important one, and one that I find very appealing, it must be accompanied by a discrimination that determines what can be resurrected, and what remains a stiff outside of the tomb.

 

Do you ever find yourself fetishizing obscurity, or becoming a xenophile?

 

No, not really. Obscurity for its own sake means nothing - most of the people in the world live in obscurity, after all. The idea that ‘obscurity’ protects an artist’s integrity is an interesting notion, tho. Purity through neglect. Perhaps this is true of Cox (Alan Tucker, one of Cox’s long-time friends, who has been a good friend to me as well, once wrote, ‘I just don’t want people thinking that Morris is some kind of genie to be let out of the bottle’. I found this a remarkable notion.) But I don’t think Cox deserves the level of obscurity he has at present.


In some ways Cox utilized his obscurity. As he became older, and began to gain some reputation for his private press books, he pushed some people away by making his editions SMALLER. He simply was doing as much as he could, but as the market was expanding for his work, the production naturally (rather than artificially) became less and less! Fame, he wrote to the collector Corrie Guyt, could hinder him if it got out of control. What would he do, for example, with his fastidious and time-consuming methods, should there be a call for 2000 books, rather than 100 (already a huge edition by his standards)?


I should probably mention one other thing here. When I first looked into Morris Cox, the language used to describe his work, to distinguish it from the strictures of traditional ‘private press’ publications, seemed to suggest an idiosyncratic, self-taught, and possibly an ‘outsider’ artist. As I found out soon enough, however, Cox was a formally trained artist with a thorough working knowledge of art theory and techniques. He was a superb craftsman. His constant experimentation led to certain innovative techniques that might lead one to believe he was ‘naive’, but this was merely an extension of his knowledge of artistic methods and processes.
In his case ‘obscurity’ + ‘unusual technique’ does not equal ‘outsider’. In some ways, in our current culture, it would almost be better for Cox’s reputation if he were a true ‘outsider’ artist. I find this somewhat ironic, that the Alfred Wallises and the Howard Finsters of the world can command more attention than an equally original but trained artist like Morris Cox. This mentality seems an over-correction in reaction to the past when only ‘academy’ artists received attention. Artists like Cox - neither ‘outsider’ or ‘established’ - get lost in the middle.

 

What was involved logistically in gathering and presenting such a huge range of work?

 

There were a number of stages to the exhibition. First was the gathering of texts and images. Most were obtained during trips I made to the U.K. in May 2003 (timed to coincide with the actual centennial of Cox’s birth on May 3rd), and in November of the same year. Alan Tucker supplied the vast majority of the texts in the form of books and copies of the little magazine FORMAT, which was a ‘group anthology’ of four poets including Cox and Tucker himself. These were invaluable to me, and I cannot thank Alan enough for access to this material. Also, Alan and another of Cox’s patrons, Colin Franklin, allowed me to take digital photographs of many of the original artworks included in the exhibition. Colin also supplied a complete set of proof pages for the Gogmagog book THE SLUMBERING VIRGIN, which is a wonderful and colorful production. Without the help and generosity of both Alan and Colin, nothing could have happened. In any endeavor such as this, it is a real crap shoot when it comes to meeting individuals. You may hit it off immediately, or things might become bad quickly, in which case the project is lost. I feel immensely fortunate that Cox had faithful and good friends, and that they in turn have been extremely kind to me. My contact with Alan and Colin has been one of the unexpected pleasures during my research of Cox, and I value their insights and cooperation greatly.


The second stage involved editing the material for the computer screen. I selected and typed texts from the books and magazines Alan had given me. Each of the digital photos taken in
England was cropped and corrected in order to match the appearance of the originals as much as possible. Beyond the images taken in person, a few images were sent from other art and book dealers. These, while sometimes not as clear as my own photos, were cleaned up as best as they could be. When possible, smaller items were scanned to create much finer images. Many of the individual prints were reproduced in this way, as well the ‘virtual facsimiles’ of THE SLUMBERING VIRGIN and THE WARRIOR & THE MAIDEN. Another Gogmagog book, MUMMERS’ FOOL, was too large to scan, and so had to be photographed, with slightly diminished results. Last but not least, tags were made for all the pieces of art and notes were added to individual pieces where they seemed to contribute significant context. I also supplied notes on the origin of the texts and works of art. A much larger general introduction was planned, but there just was not enough time to do it justice - something still in the works... the main goal was to make Cox’s work available, so the focus became getting all the material up on the site by the end of 2003.


Next, all of these edited texts and images then had to be sent to the web editors at FlashPoint - Jack Foley and Rosalie Gancie. They had the unenviable chore of receiving each text and image in their mail boxes, and then to code the items. Jack did much of the preliminary work. I gave him a basic idea of how I thought the exhibition could be set up and function, and he put it together. Rosalie then worked with me to fix colors and tags, and to design the tables of contents - these look great largely due to her creative eye. Rosalie would send me several variants of a design for me to look at and comment on. Very little was left unscrutinized. And still there are mistakes (mostly mine)! This stage of working with the web editors took several hectic weeks, and I am extremely grateful for their help and patience, which I know was tried. Imagine doing all this work for no pay, on an artist virtually unknown. The fact that FlashPoint has editors willing to do this kind of thankless work is a real blessing which I do not take for granted.


I’m proud of the final result, which I consider a work in progress. As mentioned before, the great thing about having a web exhibition is the ability to add new pieces and information, and to make updates and corrections as new material becomes available. A print catalogue would allow nothing of the sort without real expense. The main goal - to make Cox’s work available to a worldwide audience - has been achieved. This does not mean, however, that the world is looking in vast numbers. People could possibly be interested in an artist like Cox, but they still do not know to look for him on the internet. We’re working on ways to make the exhibition better known in the coming months - it’s just too good of an archive to let go to waste.


Despite the overall success of the production, largely due to the technology available at a popular level to create and view this much material on-screen, there were some annoyances caused by this same technology. For one thing, no matter how much time was spent making the images as accurate as possible, they were only accurate for MY SCREEN. When I viewed them on another computer, for example, I was horrified to see that they were generally much darker with a blue hue (evidently an anomaly of that particular computer, thank goodness)!


The reality hit that each screen is different, the settings can be different, and therefore the images will appear differently to each viewer. Also, I work on a Mac, which has great color capacity. Not everyone has access to a similar machine. Beyond this, type formatting also was an issue. When setting type for a book or hard copy document, the size and spacings will be printed, and therefore will remain unchangeable. But those looking at FlashPoint on the internet can control the text zoom to customize their view, thus possibly corrupting the special attention paid to formatting texts just as they appear in printed form. I have not even begun to consider the problem this might cause in general (in other words, not just for Cox’s work) for the internet publication of poetry and prose texts set in unconventional ways (scanning such poems as images is one way of dealing with this, but not with the most satisfying results as far as image quality and loading time).

For me, the experience has been enlightening. The internet as a medium has limitations, but it also has impressive advantages which more than balance the scale. Just consider the ‘virtual facsimiles’ of Gogmagog books. The books are nearly impossible to reproduce, even printed in hard copy. They are art objects with a special physical presence that can only be experienced fully when in hand. While the computer cannot reproduce the entire experience, it can at the very least allow for attractive colorful images to be created, and for and make them available to an unlimited audience. Cox did not limit his work to create an elite audience. In fact, for all the craftsmanship and artistry that went into the Gogmagog books, they retailed for ridiculously low prices (at times as low as £1 per book!), to the point his retailer had to convince him to raise his prices, only to be resisted by Cox(!). The limitation has meant that books once so humbly priced are now out of the reach of most people. Alan was very supportive of the FlashPoint exhibition since it was in line with Cox’s desire to make his art and writings available to anyone, and in this case anyone with access to the internet.


Perhaps more than anything, I’ve seen what a communal effort this exhibition has been. Without Alan and Colin, without Jack and Rosalie, without my own curiosity and persistence, it would not have come about. But most importantly, without Cox himself producing an impressive and vast body of work, there would have been nothing to exhibit. In this sense, all of us who have contributed to the exhibition are in supporting roles to the direction dictated by the the artworks and writings themselves. To be caught up in such a wake is quite a ride.

 

What does the work of Morris Cox have to offer?

 

Well, where to begin? It has certainly given me a lot. But that has come with familiarity, and I don’t mean a cursory knowledge. Cox’s work has to be digested, it has to be ‘owned’ by the viewer (but perhaps this is a general realization about the approach to any material worthy of our attention, or as David Jones once put it, ‘what is patient of being known and loved’). I’ve allowed it to speak to me, to tell its story. If a viewer approaches Cox’s work with a sincere interest, I think it will communicate quite plainly what it has to offer. Funny, I think this is exactly what Alan Tucker told me when I first started looking into Cox and his work. And I can see now he was right.

 

Do you place him in any sort of tradition?

 

As Alan Tucker has told me, Cox certainly saw himself working within a British tradition, from Chaucer through Shakespeare to his own time. There is a wonderful story, that Cox when he was younger visited the British Museum, only to find an illuminated copy of THE CANTERBURY TALES in one of the glass cases. Since it was in the case, he could only read the page that was on display. He was so taken by the text that he came back day after day and memorized the part on display, until the page was turned, and he could memorize the next part. I believe he saw an old copy of BEOWULF in this way as well. It may seem odd and lofty of Cox to see himself connected with these writers. But to be British, and to be aware of heritage, it seems in another light the ONLY way to write within that ‘tradition’.


Cox should also be viewed in the context of British ‘poet/painters’(or more accurately ‘composite artists’), not only the aforementioned Blake and David Jones, but Wyndham Lewis, Mervyn Peake, Michael Ayrton, Alasdair Gray, and Ian Hamilton Finlay, to name a few. In a group of such distinctive characters, Cox is equally unique. Even in this company, Blake stands out as the only one of the bunch to equate with Cox’s ability as an art printer - and ‘Great Blake’s’ techniques are more limited in scope.


In another line of thought, Cox often utilizes ‘folk’ elements in his poems which link to British ‘traditions’ as well: mummers’ plays, sword dances, yuletide rituals, etcetera. Beyond this, he references fairground baroque, a football match (seen as a modern day version of an ancient ritual), seaside fashions, and Victoriana. These ‘common’ references are mixed with Freud, the Tao Te Ching, modernist abstraction, surrealism, and an understanding of ritual and myth along the lines of Fraser. Cox would use these ‘common’ references (along with their ‘common’ sounds and rhythms) as other artists would Greek and Roman mythology, political figures, and borrowed foreign cultures. In Cox we see someone using ideas from abroad to investigate what is his by inheritance, a real working-class inheritance, and not one that is idealized or fabricated or adopted only for effect. In this way, tho it may not immediately be sensed looking at the work, Cox can be classified as a ‘modernist’ of a sort, tho appearing very different from Eliot, Pound and their ilk; closer, perhaps, to David Jones and Joyce for their attention to the local and familiar, although Cox’s tone and aesthetic are entirely different.


But Cox could just as easily be called a ‘postmodernist’ (admitting that ‘modernist’ is the root of ‘postmodernist’...): as I said, he used references to ‘popular culture’ such as football matches, carnivals, bathing attire, and revisions of Victorian pulp. As an artist in the early 1960s, Cox showed that printing from common household items (cardboard, lace, wire, even glass, and plants and grasses from the garden) could create art as fine and exciting as the more traditional wood and copper plates. Never one to stop adjusting to the times, when he was too old to work his presses, he created superb ‘Xerographs’ (photocopy prints) with a Ricoh copier given to him by his friend and patron Colin Franklin. Yet despite his inventiveness and innate playfulness (even tho bitter at times), there is never a sense that his more ‘postmodern’ activities are acting to tear down meaning, but to build it up in different ways.


Having said all this, to pigeonhole Cox into either ‘modernist’ or ‘postmodernist’ label misses the point. In my opinion, Cox’s work - and his very existence as an artist - can be viewed as subversive. This may sound silly, as there is rarely if ever an overt political stance in Cox’s work. Nor is there usually any traditional ‘argument’ used as a means of convincing the viewer, nor anything typically classed ‘obscene’, and in this sense there is nothing ‘subversive’ in his artwork. What I see, however, is a different kind of argument manifested in example. If we pay attention to Cox’s working methods, if we notice the types of things he references (and what he doesn’t), if we see his dedication to producing art above all worldly comforts, if we know the miniscule prices charged for works which took immense time and labor to produce; if we see all these things, then we can see the work as ‘exempla’, works which show us proper focus and how it can be used, as opposed to the way society normally works. There are those who rail against the world, and there are those who seek to shape it through forces akin to bombs; there are those who are content merely to consume, and take, and add nothing; and then there are those, like Cox, who in modesty learn to accept the world, and shape it through intimacy, recognition, and description. Cox is one of those rare figures in the arts who shines a light on the unknown and forgotten, and through that illumination adds to our reality. He wins the game by ignoring the ‘rules’. If more of us followed this path society would, in my opintion, be changed for the better.